Seminary Dropout 114: Paul J. Pastor, Author of The Face of the Deep: Exploring the Mysterious Person of the Holy Spirit

Paul J. Pastor is a writer, editor, and grassroots pastor living with his family in Oregon’s Columbia River Gorge.

His work finds beauty and timeless wisdom in issues of faith, culture, and modern Christian ministry. His latest book is The Face of the Deep: Exploring the Mysterious Person of the Holy Spirit.

Many Christians don’t have a clear idea of the Holy Spirit’s role in their life. Yet Scripture is full of stories that show the Spirit as a vibrant, personal being.

The Face of the Deep invites you on a quest for the Holy Spirit that journeys through our world and Bible. The adventure is infused with wonder and symbolic imagination—from the black void of Genesis 1 all the way through the explosive re-creation at the close of Revelation. You’ll encounter the love and power of the Holy Spirit revealed through the beauty of creation, art, history, and theology. -From the Publisher

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4 thoughts on “Seminary Dropout 114: Paul J. Pastor, Author of The Face of the Deep: Exploring the Mysterious Person of the Holy Spirit

  1. Is there a way to bookmark quotes on a podcast the way you can with audiobooks? It would have been easier than “rewinding” over and over again so I could copy longhand direct quotes from this episode. Raised Presbyterian-nondenominational-evangelical, as an adult I discovered the liturgy of high church Anglicans revelatory. The idea of modern iconography is fascinating; melding the ancient and the modern, yet when I shared the idea with my husband, a priest (another story of another day), his reaction was predictable: cynicism. “So if we are called to be children in our faith and we are cynical in our faith it’s because something has hurt us and we need to work through that and get to a place where we can just love and wonder and worship with abandon and joy instead of trying to talk ourselves out of those kind of rapturous wonderful, newly in love kinds of thoughts and feelings.” We all come from wounded places, especially around areas like faith, where we are most vulnerable (even those called to vocations in the church, maybe especially, as they are most open to be hurt, angry and lost when their total commitment to God’s church and HIS people doesn’t pan out exactly as advertised). All this (probably my longest comment ever) to say, thank you for this podcast and especially this quote, it has blessed me and given me renewed patience and understanding for my husband’s go-to cynicism as a function of his woundedness as he traverses through his own dark night of the soul. My prayer for my husband and all of us really is that we will truly be able to bask in the love of God, becoming so overwhelmed by HIS goodness we have no other response than to worship with the complete “gooey”, rapturous-wonder of St. John of the Cross and St. Theresa of Avila.

  2. @Beckie Glad that this section of the conversation connected, Beckie. Hoping that healing and sincerity come hand in hand to all of us who have been wounded or who have wrestled with cynicism. The Spirit is faithful.

    -Paul (Pastor)

  3. @Beckie Thank you for this very encouraging comment! 

    There’s no way to bookmark a podcast that I’m aware of. Someday I hope to have the funds to have each episode transcribed, but unfortunately that gets expensive.

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